We Don’t Know How to Say “The Marvels”
Hello and welcome to Movies on the Side. This is Steven Robles.
Nate Baranowski:And this is Nate Baranowski.
Stephen Robles:And this week, we are reviewing the 2023 Marvel movie, The Marvelles.
Nate Baranowski:Is that how we pronounce it?
Stephen Robles:Oh, shoot. Did I misspell it?
Nate Baranowski:Are we saying The Marvelles?
Stephen Robles:I thought it was the Marvelles.
Nate Baranowski:I believe Marvell.
Stephen Robles:The Marvelles. The Marvelles. No. It's not the Marvelles. No.
Stephen Robles:It's not the Marvelles. Like Carvel. You ever have a Carvel ice cream cake?
Nate Baranowski:You ever had a caramel?
Stephen Robles:Yeah. You had a caramel? You had a caramel? I lost my American accent. It's so sad.
Stephen Robles:Nate, I have serious concerns about the Marvel Universe.
Nate Baranowski:That we don't know how to pronounce the movie No. That we just watched?
Stephen Robles:No. No. I can I tell you what I really wanna say? We're gonna talk about this movie in a second.
Nate Baranowski:She's not called Ms. Mar Vell. She's called Ms. Marvel. She's Captain Marvel.
Nate Baranowski:She's not called Captain Mar Vell.
Stephen Robles:Yeah. I understand. Sometimes when things are plural, you say them differently like moose and moose. I meant to say like mouse and mice. What are we
Nate Baranowski:doing here?
Stephen Robles:What are we doing? It's been so long since we recorded. I don't know how to do the show anymore. Can I just we're gonna talk about this movie which was, I guess, fine? That's my review.
Stephen Robles:Fine. I am like listen, I like Marvel I like Mar Vell movies. Okay? I like Mar Vell movies.
Nate Baranowski:Yeah, you do.
Stephen Robles:I used I used to anyway, and now I just it's like what Are
Nate Baranowski:you DC or Mar Vell?
Stephen Robles:It's it's DC.
Nate Baranowski:It's Iron Man. It's
Stephen Robles:so now the Mar Vell universe, the Mar Vell cinematic universe, like that meme where the plane is, like, nose down and inch away from the ground and the pilots, like, alright, you take over now. It is in flames. I really wanna see Madame Web because everyone says it's just so bad.
Nate Baranowski:But is that even Marvel or is that Sony Well,
Stephen Robles:it's Marvell.
Nate Baranowski:Cosplaying as Marvell.
Stephen Robles:It's in the Marvell cinematic. It's
Nate Baranowski:off brand. Oh, yeah. I got it.
Stephen Robles:It's got Spider Man. How is it not Marvell?
Nate Baranowski:You know, Sony you know, Sony's got its system Webb, Weave
Stephen Robles:Tom Holland's. Tom Holland's in the, this MCU, the Mar Vell Cinematic Universe. We're not
Nate Baranowski:here to talk about Madame Webb because from what I've heard, it's sort of like an AI generated nightmare, and I'm excited to get to it at a future episode. But we can't blast the cannons before the ship gets in range.
Stephen Robles:What an analogy. So you wouldn't pay money to see a terrible movie. Right? Like, that's probably not. No.
Stephen Robles:You that's not
Nate Baranowski:wise. Right? Did I look to see when Tennant is coming to a 70 millimeter theater near me? Oh, yeah. It made me feel like such, like, a Christopher Nolan bro for me to even consider, like, maybe I'll go see it in theaters, but that's kinda where I'm at.
Stephen Robles:Do you know I saw an interview with, Steven Steven Colbert and, and, Christopher Nolan. Christopher Nolan.
Nate Baranowski:Now we're getting them all more bells.
Stephen Robles:And he's he loves the Fast and Furious movies. Did you know that? Christopher Nolan. Christopher Nolan likes the Fast and Furious movies because
Nate Baranowski:he knows what they are, what they're trying to be.
Stephen Robles:And he knows what he's trying to be. Literally set off an atomic bomb for real in the desert. Have you seen Oppenheimer yet? I haven't seen it yet.
Nate Baranowski:Not yet.
Stephen Robles:I'm not even gonna watch it. I gotta watch it with a video. I have
Nate Baranowski:to see Dunkirk first, and then I can see Oppenheimer. You
Stephen Robles:gotta wait. You gotta go through the whole Nolan universe before you get to,
Nate Baranowski:Yeah. Exactly.
Stephen Robles:Is that what you gotta do? Exactly. Alright. So we gotta talk about the Marvell's. I'm gonna say that I don't know if that's right or not.
Stephen Robles:Someone can comment And I'll
Nate Baranowski:say the Marvell's. So we're gonna Alright.
Stephen Robles:We should say both.
Nate Baranowski:Hit it from both sides.
Stephen Robles:The sequel to Captain Marvel
Nate Baranowski:Steven Yeah.
Stephen Robles:Go ahead.
Nate Baranowski:No. You go.
Stephen Robles:No. You go. That's okay. No. You go.
Stephen Robles:You were saying something. Go ahead. There's a little bit delay because you're in your basement, and you never use Ethernet. So go ahead.
Nate Baranowski:Here's what I'm saying.
Stephen Robles:No shame.
Nate Baranowski:This feels like the MCU Uh-huh. Well, it doesn't feel like it. This is what it is. The MCU filmed this and Quantumania at the same time. This was all happening.
Nate Baranowski:I believe there was one more Marvel project happening at the same time. Okay? Yeah. Something. I think what we're seeing is, unfortunately, this movie came out, got pushed, pushed, pushed, pushed.
Stephen Robles:It did get pushed a lot.
Nate Baranowski:And this, hopefully, is one of the last times where, we will call it Marvel's overreach of product and attention, and, like, we'll just put out anything, plus COVID. I think what we're seeing is this may be the last one where
Stephen Robles:We hope.
Nate Baranowski:Where they hadn't got the feedback from Quantumania yet, and they haven't got the feedback from the last couple things. They should've looked so far ahead. They hadn't done the what's the Nick Fury one?
Stephen Robles:Oh, wow. Secret Invasion? That wasn't good either.
Nate Baranowski:Like, they haven't got all those together. So it's like, well, we have to release it because we need to make some money, but we know, like, it's not great.
Stephen Robles:Right.
Nate Baranowski:But I think that's I think we kind of hit there. Like, they started having their internal crisis after Quantumania. Maybe slightly before.
Stephen Robles:I here's what I hope
Nate Baranowski:Maybe when they spent a bajillion dollars on She Hulk, and it was fine. It was fine. I don't know. I like She Hulk. It wasn't Alright.
Nate Baranowski:Cost more than Game of Thrones per episode good. But, like, I think they were, like, Ikaris was still flying up towards the sun at that point.
Stephen Robles:Listen. I just wanna I I was hopeful for Jonathan Majors, and now he messed it up. He's not gonna be the big bad anymore. But the latest news, though not that this is a news podcast, movie news.
Nate Baranowski:It's not.
Stephen Robles:But Henry Cavill is is supposedly I
Nate Baranowski:hate this gag. I hate it.
Stephen Robles:Is supposedly entering the MCU and we have it on good authority from our friend on the inside. I don't know what he's
Nate Baranowski:Doctor Doom.
Stephen Robles:I don't know. He might be Doctor Doom.
Nate Baranowski:A friend of a friend of a friend.
Stephen Robles:Henry Cavill as Doctor Doom. Listen, I think he's gonna he might save the MCU because I'll tell you what, this movie, I don't think will. Now, we we don't talk about this movie for a long time. I just wanna say, it's fine, like it's fine. But also, so many things that I I I skipped.
Stephen Robles:I skipped the whole singing city. Did you watch all of that? Like Yeah.
Nate Baranowski:Just Of course.
Stephen Robles:You just sat there and watched the whole thing? I didn't know. Hold on
Nate Baranowski:a second, Steven.
Stephen Robles:And I couldn't
Nate Baranowski:You and I both have a love for musicals and movie musicals.
Stephen Robles:If you try to say the little part of it thing is a musical, I'm
Nate Baranowski:guessing so. Scene. As soon as they said they speak in song, I said, great. Bring me a musical number. I don't care.
Nate Baranowski:At this point in time, I don't care. I was never emotionally invested in this movie, so might as well have a singing number. I can't believe that you decided, let's skip it.
Stephen Robles:No. I I mean, I watched enough of it to just I watched them walking through.
Nate Baranowski:Larson sing.
Stephen Robles:I saw 2
Nate Baranowski:seconds. Mouth while someone sang.
Stephen Robles:I need to know if that was actually her singing. Do we know?
Nate Baranowski:We'll never know.
Stephen Robles:I'm gonna look it up.
Nate Baranowski:We live in an AI generated world. We'll never know.
Stephen Robles:We talked about that in our bonus episode. Was that Brie Larson singing in the Marvells? That's what I just searched. Is Brie Yeah.
Nate Baranowski:I bet it was.
Stephen Robles:I bet she didn't sing. Anyway, okay. So I'd I'd skipped the part after she started singing because I couldn't tell. It was this was movie was fine. I will just say I didn't like the, the nemesis of this movie.
Stephen Robles:I felt like, you know, Mar Vell as a cinematic universe is usually pretty good. I'm just making you so mad. Usually pretty good at making like That's not possible. A good bad guy as in like, you know Right. You either don't like the bad guy or he's like Thanos, and you're, like, I kinda get it.
Stephen Robles:I'd snap away half the people I have to interact with.
Nate Baranowski:No. I would say the MCU has a history of having lackluster bad guys. So maybe this is right in line with it.
Stephen Robles:Now, wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Nate Baranowski:You did you find Ronan, the accuser or whatever, a good bad guy?
Stephen Robles:He was not a bad bad guy. I think he was He kinda
Nate Baranowski:he kinda got it.
Stephen Robles:But look at you look at the iron mans. Those were all good decent bad guys. That was fine.
Nate Baranowski:You thought the guy who the mechanic guy who had the little whips, the lightning whips,
Stephen Robles:he was
Nate Baranowski:a good bad guy?
Stephen Robles:Whiplash was good. That was a good bad guy. Look at the, the, Captain America, Winter Soldier was a great bad guy in the Winter Soldier movie as was Red Skull in the first Captain America. These are good bad guys. Doctor Strange, he had a good bad guy, you
Nate Baranowski:know. Who's this bad guy?
Stephen Robles:The the Miles Mathieson was the bad guy. He was kinda the bad guy.
Nate Baranowski:Mads Mikkelsen.
Stephen Robles:Mads Mikkelsen. What did I say? Miles Mathies?
Nate Baranowski:Miles Mathies.
Stephen Robles:I don't know who that is. I don't know who that is. Mads Mikkelsen, he was a good bad guy in that. Anyway, I think there's good bad guys. Mhmm.
Stephen Robles:This bad guy, I thought a little lackluster. Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Good bad guys. Anyway, go ahead.
Nate Baranowski:Jeff Bridges again? Was it Jeff Bridges?
Stephen Robles:Or yes. No. I think so. Chris, Chris we're a little rusty. Okay?
Stephen Robles:We haven't recorded an episode in a while.
Nate Baranowski:We haven't done this
Stephen Robles:for a while. I don't know. I'll search the Internet for movies, though. This
Nate Baranowski:bad guy, she was, they kinda shoehorned into the first movie. I really wish they would have pulled somebody maybe from that first Captain Marvel movie because she wasn't in this one. She really didn't have much to do or to think about or to have okay. Let's go back to this. The script of this movie, not good.
Stephen Robles:Not great.
Nate Baranowski:It's a rough script. Yes. It's a rough script. There is a time where Brie Larson attempts to give sort of an emotional moment about how she feels like it was because of her destroying the AI on her planet that caused the, like, eternal night and somehow got rid of the sun because of a civil war there. And it's supposed to swell and be like, she's rap wracked with guilt.
Nate Baranowski:That's why she hasn't, you know, seen Monica Rambeau and hasn't reconnected at all. That this movie doesn't have much emotional weight at all, which is unfortunate because I believe that Kamala Khan in the in the miss is Ms. Marvel series, her family dynamic was actually touching. Like, her parents were touching Like, they didn't have the same kind of heart.
Stephen Robles:The mom the mom had a couple heartfelt moments, I thought. Like, trying like, wishing her daughter off order. It's complicated because you're trying to you're trying to shoehorn 3, Marvell's in one movie. You know what I mean? You know, Company and Fish, they start sinking after 2 days, 3 more bills over 2.
Nate Baranowski:I have a hard time kind of tracking Carol Danvers' emotional intelligence and, like, levels of is she meant to be a really wooden character who doesn't have a whole lot going on? Is she meant to be actually, like, very deep, but she has a lot of, like, repression in her emotions? I can't get a good feel on her. And I kept thinking, like, is she playing the same role as the lessons in chemistry that we both loved? Like, is she just kind of playing, like, kind of low level emotions across the thing?
Nate Baranowski:Her tail. I kinda wanted more understanding of that character. But I would say, in general, the script is rough in this one.
Stephen Robles:The script is rough. I felt, I don't know. I'd I'd the
Nate Baranowski:Samuel l Jackson didn't wanna be there.
Stephen Robles:That was the other thing I was I was gonna ask you.
Nate Baranowski:I was like, though cat scene. Did you like the memory song by Barbara Streisand and the cats eating all of the, scientists?
Stephen Robles:I liked the When I liked them
Nate Baranowski:all but swallowing them.
Stephen Robles:I like the fact that they use the cat song, that they use memory as the cats were eating them. I don't like I didn't like any of that. It felt like if you're gonna be funny, you gotta go for like like, I I felt like this movie was trying to be a funny movie, like a Guardians of the Galaxy, like loose and be funny thing, and I but I never laughed, and it never like never was super witty. And like you're saying, Samuel L. Jackson, who would normally be a source of like good quips, sarcastic comments, whatever, I felt like, man, he must be is he how far into this contract is he?
Stephen Robles:Like, how long did Disney say, do you have to be Nick Fury? Because
Nate Baranowski:I I think it's less of that and more like, hey, Samuel Jackson. We need you for one last ride. I told you I was out of the game. Just one more movie. We need you in here.
Nate Baranowski:You're holding this whole thing together. And he is.
Stephen Robles:I don't know if he's I don't know if he is, though. He wasn't even in the movie that much to, like, I don't know, hold
Nate Baranowski:it on to the He just has to hold that
Stephen Robles:MCU together. How much longer? He's been into the m the the Marville Cinematic Universe since the very beginning. And, he's been in
Nate Baranowski:a scene that I really like that I hope would play off. Yeah. Pay off. Okay. Let me tell you a scene that I thought would pay off in the future, which is, I loved when they learned that they could switch places by using their power simultaneously.
Stephen Robles:Oh, sure. Sure.
Nate Baranowski:And there was a scene with a little bit of a a music mix. There's actually a really good song in here that I should have looked up beforehand. Not during that scene, but another fight scene had, like, a great, like
Stephen Robles:Yeah.
Nate Baranowski:Come in song. I believe Missy Elliott was actually on on the track. I'll look it up later.
Stephen Robles:I mean, it's
Nate Baranowski:like it was like a Skrillex plus x Missy Elliot track on this that I loved.
Stephen Robles:Okay.
Nate Baranowski:But there's a scene where they are practicing by, like, throwing a ball up, switching places real quick. They're training how to fight together as a team. And I was like, oh, okay. I like this. I like the idea that you have to be so in tandem while you're fighting.
Stephen Robles:Right. Right.
Nate Baranowski:Then they almost barely do it when they fight later.
Stephen Robles:I know.
Nate Baranowski:And I kept I looked over at Jill while watching this, and I said, there is Captain Marvel, the person who is powerful enough to, like
Stephen Robles:Take on Thanos.
Nate Baranowski:Just take on Thanos and destroy an entire Thanos army of ships. Just blast through them. Okay? Then we have 2 other superheroes with deluxe powers as well. Deluxe.
Nate Baranowski:They are fighting. Darben is just some some, what's what what, race is, kind of a
Stephen Robles:Not a Cree. A Cree?
Nate Baranowski:Cree.
Stephen Robles:Cree. Yeah. Yeah.
Nate Baranowski:They're just fighting one Kree. And it's like, why are these 3 superheroes having trouble
Stephen Robles:Yeah.
Nate Baranowski:Just shouldn't Captain Marvel be able to just kinda rear back and just, like, fly through her full on, like, jump to light speed?
Stephen Robles:You would think. I think you're mixing a universe eye there, but yes, I agree.
Nate Baranowski:It's all Disney, baby.
Stephen Robles:Also, I watched this in Apple Vision Pro. This is not a tech. This this is
Nate Baranowski:not a tech. Better?
Stephen Robles:So here's the thing. This is not a tech podcast, okay? But I have Apple Vision Pro. I've been using it for a few weeks.
Nate Baranowski:Mhmm.
Stephen Robles:I thought this would be an interesting movie because I have watched like I've gone back and watched Marvel scenes in Apple Vision Pro like Infinity War and Endgame. I watched a couple other like big Marvel movie ones. Mhmm. And it is very impressive and very cool to watch it in this VR like with on a massive screen. And watching those older scenes, it was, you know, they're feel good.
Stephen Robles:I like the scenes. I thought and this you you are in my head, Nate, because for so long, every time we would talk about some battle in some superhero movie or disaster movie, like, yeah, it's just a bunch of
Nate Baranowski:flashing lights.
Stephen Robles:Just a bunch of CG, just whatever. And I always used to I mean, it didn't matter. I enjoyed that. And now, Nate, I was watching this movie on literally the biggest virtual screen I can imagine. It was like I was sitting in this huge IMAX theater, had my AirPods Pro in, so it sounded great.
Stephen Robles:And I'm watching the CG, and I'm like, it doesn't do it for me anymore. Just the like, people shooting laser beams out of their hands.
Nate Baranowski:Wow.
Stephen Robles:It's just not enough.
Nate Baranowski:It used to be enough for you.
Stephen Robles:But I also feel like it was enough because it was either Robert Downey Junior as Iron Man doing it or it was Thor, or it was like the characters that actually like
Nate Baranowski:You cared about the characters.
Stephen Robles:You cared about the characters and it was like, the it was usually a payoff for a good movie now having a good fight scene with CG. Mhmm. But I I guess I really feel now when it's a bunch of CG lightning bolts after like a mediocre movie, that I'm like, this is not really exciting. It also didn't feel like great fight scenes either in this. Like, it didn't feel very exciting.
Stephen Robles:So Yeah.
Nate Baranowski:It was a little it was a little rough. I I think that Marvel in general
Stephen Robles:Marvel.
Nate Baranowski:Kind of got bigger and bigger and bigger as it headed towards Infinity War and Endgame. But its strength had always been the small stories and the origin stories. And you ended up caring about the Avengers because you cared about them.
Stephen Robles:Right.
Nate Baranowski:Like, I, a long time before Quantumania, I cared that Ant Man went back and, like, missed his daughter growing up 5 years because of the brain. Like, I cared about these characters going through. And even, I would say, a little bit, I cared about Monica Rambeau's mom and their relationship as, like, fighter pilots back in Captain Marvel.
Stephen Robles:I did. Yeah.
Nate Baranowski:And I cared about these characters. And then I always felt like, alright. Then you make it a giant laser beam in the sky. And it was good because we hadn't seen stuff like that before. CG was still, like, ramping up.
Stephen Robles:It was really good compared to when we were, like, younger. Yeah.
Nate Baranowski:Right. Exactly. But, like, I still was worried that the heroes would die. And as the machine of Marvel got bigger, I started to realize, oh, you're not going to you're not at you're not in danger, superheroes. Like, even by Civil War, I was not worried that Iron Man or Captain America would kill each other because it's like, these are bigger entities.
Nate Baranowski:These are huge elements. And that's why, like, the Iron Man, like, sacrifice was big at the end. Like, it was the end of Robert Downey Junior
Stephen Robles:Spoiler.
Nate Baranowski:Until they call him for 1 well, what are we? 8 years ago now?
Stephen Robles:It was a You're here for this. 6 years ago.
Nate Baranowski:Oh, okay. Yeah. So when it gets to these ones Yeah. And it's like, I am watching an entire, planet of basically, scrolls living as, like, refugees on a planet. Yeah.
Nate Baranowski:And, like, I want to care about them, and I want to care about them small. But they shoot it like the planet's getting their atmosphere sucked away and stuff's falling and everything.
Stephen Robles:Right.
Nate Baranowski:And the heroes are saving a few. But most for the most part, they're not surviving this, and yet this movie wants to make sure that, like, we're not too invested in them. It's almost like they want us to stay at a distance of going, a planet getting destroyed means millions of life forms of these aliens just getting wiped out.
Stephen Robles:Right.
Nate Baranowski:But instead of feeling that, we're supposed to, like, kind of keep that, like, light p g 13. Like so I'm never able to feel the weight of things. I don't feel the weight of the civil war on the Cree people. Right. And so it doesn't never hits me.
Nate Baranowski:I'm not sure if that's intentional. Like, they don't want it to get too heavy or, you know, like, everyone's fine. Everyone's fine in this movie, and they will stay fine, and our heroes will stay fine. And even the sacrifice at the end, spoiler alert for this movie starting right now, we we get Monica Rambeau separated and doing, like, a a sacrifice sort of thing. It's meant to be, like, no.
Nate Baranowski:Don't do it. She gets taken to another dimension. I was never really worried about her. She was Yeah. I just assumed, oh, they're just gonna set her up for a spin off if they can.
Stephen Robles:Right.
Nate Baranowski:Kind of thing. Like, that's just gonna head in a different direction.
Stephen Robles:Multiverse. Multiverse. Yeah. Are you, I don't know what movies are on the horizon. I know there's, like, more Avengers movies coming and stuff like that.
Stephen Robles:Are you are you what's your excitement level to see future Marville movies?
Nate Baranowski:I haven't been that excited about a Marvel movie for a while. I wasn't really excited about Guardians of the Galaxy vol 3. So it's been, like, probably since Endgame that I was kinda like I was seeing them dutifully. I don't think unless reviews come out that are really, really good for a future one. Like, I have heard that see, Deadpool gets a little bit too rated r e for me.
Nate Baranowski:Like, it's almost right on the edge of, like,
Stephen Robles:it
Nate Baranowski:gets a little gory, a little graphic. Sure. I've heard, like it's that kind of, like, off the beaten path thing that gets really good reviews that might bring me back to a theater to watch 1. But Right. Marvel used to be appointment viewing for theaters.
Nate Baranowski:And now it's, you know, if it's at Disney plus, I'll probably give it a watch.
Stephen Robles:Yeah. I'm I'm probably not gonna go to the movies for a Marvel movie, you know, for a while. I mean, I wanted to see Matt if it's just so bad. Oh, this
Nate Baranowski:is a Yeah.
Stephen Robles:A 100%. We'll do it. I also saw, like, even DC
Nate Baranowski:DC movie. So We watched it together. We watched black Adam together, didn't we? Or was it aquaman?
Stephen Robles:Well, we watched Aquaman together.
Nate Baranowski:It was Aquaman. It wasn't Black Adam.
Stephen Robles:It was Aquaman.
Nate Baranowski:You watched that in theaters.
Stephen Robles:We watched Shang Chi together in Orlando. We did. We saw that.
Nate Baranowski:We did.
Stephen Robles:That was fun. You fell asleep in that movie, but it was very light. So I understand. I understand. Oh, I got
Nate Baranowski:for the important parts. I was looking He still had 10 rings.
Stephen Robles:I was looking for things to watch in Apple Vision Pro Mhmm. And I saw that the sequel to the Aquaman movie is out. I don't know if you knew that. The Lost Kingdom or something.
Nate Baranowski:Yeah.
Stephen Robles:And I saw it there, and it was one of those things where you could like rent it for $20 or whatever. So I was like, oh, this might be cool. So I watched the trailer and, like I just talked about with the whole CG stuff, I was like, yeah. I really don't. I don't want to pay even $20 to see this.
Stephen Robles:So I didn't
Nate Baranowski:sure if I I heard some stories about Nia DaCosta, who is the director of this one. And I don't know how it all went behind the scenes, but, like, heard rumblings or rumors of things not going well and then, you know, COVID stuff and then the strike stuff after that. And, like, I heard, like, things were a little rough. But I have gotten the sense in recent years that directors haven't been super, like, proud of the work they've created, that they're kind of all held in by this bigger machine, and they're just like, I you know, like and even with, like, the the press junkets for things, unfortunately, this movie didn't because of the strike, didn't get
Stephen Robles:Oh, right.
Nate Baranowski:Like, the the interviews. And so I think a lot of people rejoiced in the flopping nature of The Marvels. I don't rejoice in, like, in not making a lot of money. It doesn't really actually sway me either way, but it did make me feel like, man, I hope that, like, the director for this one, like, I hope that if she didn't make the kind of movie she wanted to make that, like, she'll move on to something else and be like, alright. Well, I'm not doing this again.
Nate Baranowski:Or maybe if she did like it, like, it felt like this movie was edited in a weird way. There were some scenes that are like, this is I'm getting a voice over that doesn't quite match with this
Stephen Robles:or this
Nate Baranowski:Yes. Thingy is seems cut short that it shouldn't be. And so I'm I'm hoping that this movie wasn't meddled with too much afterwards. I think she had a different project, so Nia couldn't hang around for postproduction. I'm hoping that it wasn't just, like, rest out of her control.
Nate Baranowski:But I have felt, like, these recent Marvel things, I'm sensing turmoil within and therefore not excitement without. I want people to be excited about me seeing a movie, not just an executive wanting me wanting to recoup some money so I can go
Stephen Robles:see it. That's not a good motivation to, like, release a movie.
Nate Baranowski:I'm not I'm not here to help China organizations recoup money.
Stephen Robles:Alright. Let's rate this movie. On a scale of, 0 to 5, cats? I mean Flerkins? Flerkins?
Stephen Robles:On a scale of 0 to 5, Flerkins. What do you give this movie, Nate? I'm gonna give it a 2. I'll just say that. 2 Flerkins for me.
Nate Baranowski:I'm gonna give it 2a half. And I'm gonna give it the 2a half because this is a generous 2a half because I feel like it had a lot of things going against it. It was trying to tie in a lot of things, and it's in the midst of, we'll call it, Marvel's midlife crisis.
Stephen Robles:Sure. Sure.
Nate Baranowski:So two and a half. It was fine. It's Disney plus. You can watch it. There are some cool scenes.
Nate Baranowski:I think a someone who, like, with Kamala Khan, like, loving Captain Marvel and then joining her on the team. I thought there would be another scene about with Brie Larson being like, hey, I went into your bedroom and there's a bunch of pictures of me and it's
Stephen Robles:coming here. There should have been that. There should have been that.
Nate Baranowski:Or, like, I don't know. I'm it's it's weird where yeah.
Stephen Robles:Yeah. There should have been that.
Nate Baranowski:I don't know.
Stephen Robles:Well, let us let us know It was fine. Let us know what you thought about the Marvell's or the Marvells, if you want to mispronounce it. You can comment on the Instagram post. You can also support the show. You can do that in Apple Podcasts.
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Nate Baranowski:I'm getting a lot of negative energy from you, and I don't like it. That's Carol Danvers.
Stephen Robles:There he is. Also
Nate Baranowski:wait. We didn't even say it. What? Hank McCoy is in this. The X Men are in
Stephen Robles:the post credit scene. Oh, post credit scene. The post credit scene. That was kind of exciting, honestly. No.
Stephen Robles:No. No. But they're also doing the X Men, 97 animated show on Disney Plus.
Nate Baranowski:Listen. I'm I'm probably more excited about that than I am about
Stephen Robles:future Marvel movies. Me too. No. That's not the X Men theme.
Nate Baranowski:What is that?
Stephen Robles:That's the Wonder Woman.
Nate Baranowski:No. What's the X Men 1? Oh, yeah. That was close. For those hey, for those who are staying around after this, I just Can't believe it.
Nate Baranowski:This is, like, our post credit scene.
Stephen Robles:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is
Nate Baranowski:our our quick post credit scene. Yeah. Hey. We talked a little bit about Hans Zimmer and his Pirates of the Caribbean ripping off the gladiator, ripping off the rock. Do you think that this was before, like, social media and the Internet getting big?
Nate Baranowski:Do you think Hans Zimmer thought, like, well, even if people see the similarities between all of these things I'm writing, it's not like they're gonna, like, share it with the world. How are they gonna get Right. Their, like, musical nerd theories out? And then as soon as, like, Twitter came out, he's like, alright. It's time to go to crazy soundscapes because I'm done writing themes because y'all can connect all the dots together now.
Stephen Robles:I mean, listen. You you're gonna have similarities How similar is it? Similarities.
Nate Baranowski:It's a it's a very similar theme to a scene in Lion King 2, I also found out during my rabbit hole search.
Stephen Robles:Did Hans ever do the music for Lion King 2?
Nate Baranowski:Lion King 2.
Stephen Robles:Did Hans ever do the music for that?
Nate Baranowski:I don't know.
Stephen Robles:That's good.
Nate Baranowski:Didn't get that far in the rabbit hole. Just listened to the Lion King 2
Stephen Robles:yeah. No thanks. Scene. No. Thanks.
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